Comments on: Wheels Of Light http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/02/12/wheels-of-light/ Deliciously Geeky... Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:25:08 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ed6002 http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/02/12/wheels-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-397446 ed6002 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:49:33 +0000 http://www.ohgizmo.com/?p=1189#comment-397446 A high quality manual turntable with a high quality arm (very good bearings and hardly any drag) with a high quality pickup will not lesson the quality of virgin vinyl. The recycled vinyl was not very good and did not hold up well. I engineered at various radio stations where records were handled every way but good and the sound held up for weeks of constant playing. The biggest problem is noise from mishandling. Reading the ad above the reference is made to 78, 78? well I guess your 78's might get worse with each play on your Victrola, better change that steel needle every time you play one :-) A high quality manual turntable with a high quality arm (very good bearings and hardly any drag) with a high quality pickup will not lesson the quality of virgin vinyl. The recycled vinyl was not very good and did not hold up well. I engineered at various radio stations where records were handled every way but good and the sound held up for weeks of constant playing. The biggest problem is noise from mishandling. Reading the ad above the reference is made to 78, 78? well I guess your 78's might get worse with each play on your Victrola, better change that steel needle every time you play one :-)

]]> By: Gabrielle Myers http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/02/12/wheels-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-386563 Gabrielle Myers Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:23:34 +0000 http://www.ohgizmo.com/?p=1189#comment-386563 Today, it's down to $3000 as I read yahoo's news about releasing of vinyls here http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080712/music_nm/vinyl_dc Today, it’s down to $3000 as I read yahoo’s news about releasing of vinyls here http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080712/music_nm/vinyl_dc

]]> By: Ward Duffield http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/02/12/wheels-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-347191 Ward Duffield Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:39:28 +0000 http://www.ohgizmo.com/?p=1189#comment-347191 Hello I have a homemade 78-RPM record with a thin acetate or black plastic overlay on an aluminum platter. It was made during WWII, and obviously cannot be replaced. This surface is brittle and quite deteriorated. It would be impossible to play this record with a conventional phonograph needle. Are you aware of anyone who is offering transcription of 78s using a laser turntable? I think that would be the only way to recover the recording on this disc. Thanks ward Hello

I have a homemade 78-RPM record with a thin acetate or black plastic overlay on an aluminum platter. It was made during WWII, and obviously cannot be replaced.
This surface is brittle and quite deteriorated. It would be impossible to play this record with a conventional phonograph needle.
Are you aware of anyone who is offering transcription of 78s using a laser turntable?
I think that would be the only way to recover the recording on this disc.
Thanks
ward

]]> By: Mark Stevens http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/02/12/wheels-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-340496 Mark Stevens Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:59:57 +0000 http://www.ohgizmo.com/?p=1189#comment-340496 Just thought I'd throw a recording musician's view into this discussion. I like vinyl too, grew up with it, but it does have problems. I have to disagree with those who say that vinyl is the best representation of the master tape. The master tape itself is the clearest representation of what the artist and producer(s) and engineers intended, vinyl adds coloration, just as digitization does. That happens to be coloration that we're all so used to that we hear it as "normal" or "good sounding". It's been my experience that audiophiles sometimes are listening for sonic details that the musicians and production team weren't really reaching for, or didn't achieve. I think some of you would be shocked to hear an actual 2-track master tape from an earlier era, as the engineers were in fact, in many cases, relying on vinyl's surface noise to cover up things like tape hiss and tape edits. A lot of the coloration we like in vinyl comes from tubes, so if you really want to "warm up" a CD, run it through a tube pre-amp of some sort, you'll start to hear what your'e used to again, without the crackles and other hassles. Just thought I’d throw a recording musician’s view into this discussion. I like vinyl too, grew up with it, but it does have problems. I have to disagree with those who say that vinyl is the best representation of the master tape. The master tape itself is the clearest representation of what the artist and producer(s) and engineers intended, vinyl adds coloration, just as digitization does. That happens to be coloration that we’re all so used to that we hear it as “normal” or “good sounding”. It’s been my experience that audiophiles sometimes are listening for sonic details that the musicians and production team weren’t really reaching for, or didn’t achieve. I think some of you would be shocked to hear an actual 2-track master tape from an earlier era, as the engineers were in fact, in many cases, relying on vinyl’s surface noise to cover up things like tape hiss and tape edits. A lot of the coloration we like in vinyl comes from tubes, so if you really want to “warm up” a CD, run it through a tube pre-amp of some sort, you’ll start to hear what your’e used to again, without the crackles and other hassles.

]]> By: Beez http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/02/12/wheels-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-295669 Beez Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:09:05 +0000 http://www.ohgizmo.com/?p=1189#comment-295669 I don't know how THIS particular device does it, but there's no particular reason why a laser needle couldn't be developed to read the waveforms on the vinyl and give true analog sound. If this one does it digitally, then I'd probably hold out for one that did it in an analog fashion - I can think of a couple of ways this could work, probably with some coupling of amplifiers and light sensitive diodes. I don’t know how THIS particular device does it, but there’s no particular reason why a laser needle couldn’t be developed to read the waveforms on the vinyl and give true analog sound. If this one does it digitally, then I’d probably hold out for one that did it in an analog fashion – I can think of a couple of ways this could work, probably with some coupling of amplifiers and light sensitive diodes.

]]> By: Mark http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/02/12/wheels-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-116619 Mark Sat, 13 Jan 2007 22:13:48 +0000 http://www.ohgizmo.com/?p=1189#comment-116619 The story behind the rpms is actually kind of interesting. Short version is that 33 was chosen because it was 78 minus 45 "Geo Says: You meant 33 1/3 rpm, not 78 rpm, yes? Posted 5:38 am on February 13th, 2006 dangerous Says: old records were 78rpm - they were made of bakelite or something and you used a cactus needle. you still see them around in junk shops. Posted 6:26 am on February 13th, 2006" The story behind the rpms is actually kind of interesting. Short version is that 33 was chosen because it was 78 minus 45

“Geo Says:
You meant 33 1/3 rpm, not 78 rpm, yes?

Posted 5:38 am on February 13th, 2006

dangerous Says:
old records were 78rpm – they were made of bakelite or something and you used a cactus needle. you still see them around in junk shops.

Posted 6:26 am on February 13th, 2006″

]]> By: Bob Hope http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/02/12/wheels-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-13936 Bob Hope Sat, 20 May 2006 14:57:15 +0000 http://www.ohgizmo.com/?p=1189#comment-13936 <strong>Bob Hope...</strong> might do the job. Its for Linux (and Windows) but I would expect to be able to compile it under OS X.... Bob Hope…

might do the job. Its for Linux (and Windows) but I would expect to be able to compile it under OS X….

]]> By: ArlosGuitar http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/02/12/wheels-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-11561 ArlosGuitar Sat, 06 May 2006 03:00:10 +0000 http://www.ohgizmo.com/?p=1189#comment-11561 If i was rich i would own this product. Along with everything I like on vinyl. Fact is, I'm not rich! As I understand the patent is about to expire. So give it another 5 - 10 years and maybe I will have something like this that has a Pioneer tag on it (or whatever floats your boat). I don't have anything in my collection that i cannot get on cd. And also remember as time goes on less and less releases are becomming availiable on vinyl. It's simply dead and that is a damn shame !!! If i was rich i would own this product. Along with everything I like on vinyl. Fact is, I’m not rich! As I understand the patent is about to expire. So give it another 5 – 10 years and maybe I will have something like this that has a Pioneer tag on it (or whatever floats your boat). I don’t have anything in my collection that i cannot get on cd. And also remember as time goes on less and less releases are becomming availiable on vinyl. It’s simply dead and that is a damn shame !!!

]]> By: Ed Dames http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/02/12/wheels-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-10340 Ed Dames Tue, 18 Apr 2006 07:08:46 +0000 http://www.ohgizmo.com/?p=1189#comment-10340 Who are these anti-vinyl ass holes???? Vinyl has a longer lifespan than cds. It is a superior archiving format. More power to whoever creates products for vinyl enthusiasts!...even if it is 15 grand. Who are these anti-vinyl ass holes???? Vinyl has a longer lifespan than cds. It is a superior archiving format. More power to whoever creates products for vinyl enthusiasts!…even if it is 15 grand.

]]> By: Ed http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/02/12/wheels-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-7971 Ed Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:59:09 +0000 http://www.ohgizmo.com/?p=1189#comment-7971 Can I just rent one? I have vinyl that can never be replaced. This way, I could transfer the music to a more lasting medium. Can I just rent one? I have vinyl that can never be replaced. This way, I could transfer the music to a more lasting medium.

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